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on the wealthy. the headlines tell the story. "the washington post" wrote, "obama offers plan for cliff, not compromise." "the new york times." "gop balks at white house plan on fiscal crisis." and "the wall street journal," obama's cliff offer spurned. i want to bring in joanne reed and molly ball, political reporter for "the atlantic." good to see both of you. good morning. >> good to be here. >> mitch mcconnell, we are told, literally laughed at the white house's offer. and if you listen to speaker boehner, it's not going very well. take a listen. >> i'm disappointed in where we are and disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> and the speaker tweeted, "how serious is the white house about avoiding the fiscal cliff?" reports suggest, in some cases, not so serious. and also, joanne, what is the strategy here, and is there a risk like looking like you're not really negotiating? >> well, you know, i think wh
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over the president obama's fiscal cliff proposal. is it that much of a raw deal as they claim? we'll break it down. do you ever have too much money or too many big macs? ♪ ♪ . melissa: the idea of u.s. energy independence may be music to your ears but is fracking the way toet there? a new report fm the food and water watch, says if that i what you think, think again. they say the real answer is investing in renewable energy because increasing prucon of natural gas will only continue dependence on fossil fuels. we have a the environmental thast that is big defender of fracking. he tells us why it is a key to the energy independence. thanks for coming back on the show. >> thank you for having me back. melissa: what do you think about fracking is evil? are you convinced? >> no. they're making two different claims. one is energy independence essentially we're more robust against disruptions from our supply. there are two ways to think about it. if you're worried about disruptions, go to coal that is not what anyone is suggesting. instead we should go for cheap gas. even then if yo
questions about the fight over the fiscal cliff and whether some media outlets are playing favorites. obama tries new negotiation tack. not giving in. the headline in the baltimore business journal screams obama's fiscal cliff offer spurned by republicans. obama takes hard line on debt. which might be news to some people in the parenthetical. tony is a political correspondent and mark hannah is a former aide to the john kerry and barack obama presidential campaigns. some of the media tries to short form the story and comes up with a headline that can be barbed easily. this is suggested by a cable anchor who suggested the media has been arrogant since barack obama won in covering him and in covering in particular this fiscal cliff. tony, your thoughts. >> it could only be an msnbc anchor to take this long to figure out. there have been some media, the financial times which endorsed the president has called the president's bluff on this plan. they say this is the same proposal he put in front of congress that received zero votes a year ago, not even one democratic vote. but what the media has
. and that is illegal. first up, breaking news on the fiscal cliff front tonight, president obama offered his opening bid in budget talks with republicans, and we have eamon javers with all the details. good even, eamon. >> house republican aides are saying this was a new offer from temperature think geithner on capitol hill for a long series of meegts. there were varying report of whether or not he had made a specific new offer. in fact harry reid told me that he hadn't made a specific new offer. that said, republican sources are laying out the offer they say they got from the white house today. take a look at some of the specifics. you'll see what's prompting the reaction earp just talking about. they say what the white house is offering is 1.6 trillion in tax increases up front, to continue the payroll tax credit or a similar policy, what they call a permanent increase in the debt limits, a one-years extension of extended jobless benefits plan, and at least $50 billion in new spending. i talked to a house gop aide that said this offers a complete break from reality. that said, i also talked to the
's opening offer to avert the fiscal cliff. he did it in a tv interview. what does president obama think of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a week ago. president obama is focused on the stalemate with congress over averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> i know that the president wants a deal and he didn't try to handicap it. >> rep
. >>> these are your headlines. the war of words over the fiscal cliff intensifies as obama prepares to take his case to the american people. the eurozone was living in a, quote, fairy world. draghi tells governments they cannot rely only on ecb help and chastises them for past mistakes. and schaeuble warns a default could spell the end of the euro. >>> president obama travels to a suburb of philadelphia today to tour a local toy company. he'll speak at noon eastern time and will continue to press republicans to let tax cuts expire for people making more than $250,000 a year. reports suggest the president's opening bid and budget talks calls for a $1.6 trillion tax hike, $50 billion in new in-practice straukt spending, and unfettered power to raise the u.s. debt ceiling. that was laid out to lawmakers yesterday by tim geithner and led to sharp comments there both sides of the aisle. >> now is the time for the republicans to move past this happy talk about revenues, ill defined, of course, and put specifics on the table. the president has made his proposal. we need a proposal from them. >> what we don
to avoid the year end fiscal cliff. >>> and president obama is meeting with a group u.s. governors today around 10:00 a.m. eastern. it includes jack markell, mary fallon, scott walker. the governors will discuss how the fiscal cliff will impact their states and possible solutions. it's also expected to meet with house republicans, as well, this week. >>> and oracle is amongst the latest of speeding up their dividend pay outs to avoid possible tax hikes because of the fiscal cliff. they will pay dividends a total of 18 cents a share for the next three quarters. larry ellison didn't take part in the decision, but he will benefit. he own as 23% stake in the company, so he'll receive around $198 million. yes, you heard it right. oracle stock down 0.8% despite that in frankfurt. still to come, interest rates in australia are moving down. down under. find out what central bank is worried about when we come back. >>> australia central bank held its rate setting meeting. matthew taylor has the details. >> the market had been pricing in a 25 basis point rate cut and the reserve bank delivered wit
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the fiscal cliff because it will have bad responses to republicans. the obama people will be able to say you gave away the ability to keep taxes down on 98% of americans. and for the president, the idea that he would allow the taxes to go up, again, on appetizing for him given that he said he would protect the american middle class. lori: he said the same thing over and over again. how do you see this sorting itself out? >> from purely a political viewpoint, i did not see why anyone would not make a deal. the fear i have is they just kick the can down the road thing and they create a three-month bridge. not the heart and soul of it which will be, as you said, some kind of tax hikes. then, you move on, in terms of the entitlement cuts. i do not think we will get the social security. when it comes to spending and social security on the like -- that is what will happen. i do not see why people don't just make the deal. lori: how much further down the road can it go? juan williams, so nice to see you. have a nice weekend. >> thank you, lori. melissa: charlie gasparino has the latest details. he
. the president yesterday on the fiscal cliff. >> obama: let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2% that includes all of you guests but not in anyway that is going to affect your spending, your lifestyles or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year. 97% of small businesses don't see a single dime of tax increases next year and by doing that alone we raise almost a trillion dollars. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: associated press says the white house is signalling president obama is willing to let the country go over the cliff. this is a choice of the republican party if they are willing to do higher rates on the country, there is a lot to talk about, if they are not, they will push us over the cliff. tim geithner said there is no prospect in an agreement that doesn't include the tax rate going up on the top 2% of americans. he said we are not prepared to have the american economy held hostage to periodic threats. >> there you go. >> stephanie: and he point
of congress and president obama if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff. the petition's chances are slim. but it's a reflection of americans' frustration with 28 days left. rob and paula? >> tahman bradley live in washington today. thank you, tahman. >>> and as talks over the fiscal cliff drag on, a new poll finds that most americans do not think very highly of congress. one in ten americans rate the honesty and ethical standards of its members as very high or high. this puts the law making body, second-lowest on the list of 22 professions. higher only than car sales people. >> how telling is that? >> that's an indictment. >>> and another nasty storm is drenching the west coast, from northern california, into portland and seattle. this is the fourth big rainmaker to hit that area in a week. and this time, it could dump up to five inches of rain and cause even more flooding and destruction. abc's brandi hitt has the latest. >> reporter: after several days of drenching rain, downed trees, flooding and rockslides, families throughout the west are finally getting a break in the severe weather to cle
for coming by. >> now the fight over fiscal cliff, president obama stumping campaign style to prevent fast approaching spending cuts and expiring tax breaks and a potential economic disaster a month ago and toured a toy factory in pennsylvania, the company behind lincoln logs. the white house says the trip highlights the response extending the bush era tax cuts for everyone but now for any amount of money you make over $250,000. so everyone get as tax break but not anything over $250,000. that is the company's core customers and flames republicans for holding up the progress. republicans point the finger at the president. >> it is not acceptable to me or to you, i don't think, for a handful of the republicans in congress to hold middle-class tax cuts hostage. >> the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of a proposal. to my disappointment, it wasn't a serious one. >>shepard: speaker boehner referred to meetings with the treasury secretary geithner. republicans called plan he layed out a step backwards, so much that top senate republican were mcconnell burst into laugh laugh
is trying to avoid plunging of the fiscal cliff. he has made clear that the obama administration is saying that the first order of business has to be to extend tax breaks for middle-class families and raise tax rates for the top 2% of income earners. talks over how to rein in entitlement spending should be held sometime next year. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion of new revenue over 10 years. twice as much as he has been asking for the public. his stimulus spending exceeded the amount of new cuts that he was willing to consider. it was not a serious offer. reporter: enter a new player in the talks, stephanie cutter. you remember her? she was the deputy campaign manager for the obama-biden ticket suggested that mitt romney might have committed a felony on his tax returns. sunday night, she e-mailed them to reach a fiscal deal. republicans have balked at raising those tax rates. they are identified by marcus at countries job creators. >> for the first time in two decades, they are there will tell revenues go up as part is the plan. but they have to tell us what they're willing to
obama their thoughts on the "fiscal cliff." the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one is going to get what they want. but we have to compromise. if everything is going to be on the table, how do we negotiate? >> reporter: republicans have given a counterproposal to the president's plan which he issued last week. they say their plan would cut $2 .2 trillion from the federal deficit over 10 years. but $600 billion in healthcare cuts, $300 billion in cuts to mandatory spending, and another $300 billion in cuts to other federal spending. the biggest difference between the republican plan and the president's remains taxes and how the government can generate more revenue to pay down the debt. >> rates have to rise on the top 2%. there's no other way to do it. >> reporter: president obama says his plan will raise taxes on the rich bringing in 1.6 trillion. republicans want to close tax loopholes and eliminate deductions to raise $800 billion in new revenue. >> the president has a hug
at the white house with president obama to discuss, what else? the fiscal cliff. states would be severely impacted because much of their revenue comes from the federal government. cnn white house correspondent dan lothian is at the white house. so, dan, who is trying to convince who? >> well, i think it's a little bit of both here. you have the president trying to sort of put pressure on them, if you will, these governors, to then they in turn should put pressure ontheir lawmakers to get a deal done. at the time the governors are here to let the president know there's some real consequences if this scenario plays out. a third of states out there get their revenue from federal grants according to a pew report, and that report also points out that states like virginia, for example, would be heavily impacted. why virginia? because it has a lot of military defense contractors. they're saying that they could be impacted to the tune of about $10 billion in economic activity falling. in addition to that, 120,000 jobs lost. take a look at a state like south dakota, for example. a very small state
this. >> i think people forget there are lots of fiscal cliff taxes, but just what president obama wallets and, you know, forget about the fiscal cliff, what his mandate is, essentially, forces a lot of taxes, including income tax increases. if you look at obamacare, there's a surcharge on income. and, you know, it's pretty scary between that and the capital gains, we're talking about, you know, we're talking about hitting people with a huge tax bill. and we should point out that this is the alleged rich, the millionaires and billionaires who make $200,000 a year. martha: right, exactly. exactly right. [laughter] you know, if you live in a metropolitan area really anywhere across the country and you make $200,000 if you're an individual, $250,000 together if you're a couple and you have any investments, right? >> any investments, but also even if you don't have investments, i think there's a surcharge on income here, which, you know, aside from that. and i'll tell you, this is the real sort offedty of -- oddity of obama taxes and the sort of silence of new york politicians. kirsten
you for that reporting from washington. >>> president obama talking about the fiscal cliff. in his first television interview since the election, that cliff, of course the combination of government spending cuts and tax increases that automatically go into effect on january 1st because people we elected to make a deal can't make a deal. yesterday, republicans proposed steep spending cuts but gave no ground on president obama's call to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. here's what the president told bloomberg's white house correspondent about that. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. you know he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenue but was he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the platte it doesn't work. when i've said is, i am prepared to work with the speaker and democrats and republicans to go after excessive health care costs in our federal health care system, we're going to have to strengthen those systems and i think we can do that without hurting seniors, without hurting beneficiaries
isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make very tough fiscal choices, we're going to keep investing in these programs. >> reporter: he went online on youtube and twitter explaining why he thinks the rich should pay more. going over the fiscal cliff could cost america jobs. >> we're only expanding 2% right now. it needs to be considerably higher to bring more people off unemployment. >> reporter: for the jobless, president obama is asking congress for millions mor
spending decreases if you go over the fiscal cliff than if you deal with president obama. >> greta: well, it appears to many in the city that it's politico check mate for the president. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what it means is the taxes will go up on the wealthy, the big earners. it also goes up on the middle class. i assume the middle class will look to the rawp republicans foe fact that their taxes come up so political check mate. >> i'm not so sure. president obama could avoid that very simply by putting maybe two or three to one expenditure reductions on the table for revenue increases, something like sim responsibl simpson bow. he has a formula given to him by a commission he appointed and heted that formula and presented to the republicans a program which was basically just a massive tax increase over and above the massive tax increase that's going to take place with the bush tax cuts expiring, so i don't see where there's -- he hasn't given them room to compromise. maybe if he had put his tax increases on the table and put up expenditure reductions of, you know, one and a
geithner saying the obama administration is absolutely ready to go over the fiscal cliff. >> what we got today was a assemble nar on hoaseminar on h. >> the vast majority of the media is on his side. no matter what he says, no matter what he does, even though what he's doing is outrageous, but his own party won't support him. >> the republicans have conceded the language. >> we could probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. >> it was week. >> president obama has said that he has pen in hand and he's prepared to sign the middle income tax cuts. >> you have a president of the united states that has the mighty pen. you bailed out the banks. bail out the american people that don't have homes for the holidays. >> in his second term i hope he will offer fresh ideas and serious leadership. >> we need a response from the white house. >> i'm hea here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> it's true that president obama won reelection and i congratulate him on his victory, but on january 20th, he'll face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. >> our people
of getting the fiscal cliff deal done before everyone's taxes go up. >> consolation lunch? president obama visits mitt romney to the white house today and everyone is buzzing about it. could obama offer him a job? >> congratulations to someone. you just won the gdp of a small nation. not just one but two winning tickets in last night's record powerball drawing. we'll tell you where. >> and if they will be my best friend soon. we have a packed show. john ba, rasso, adam shif, rick warren, tom cole, connie and mary bono mack and steven holcomb. >> we have so many people coming up. it is thursday, november 2. "starting point" begins right now. >>> good morning, everyone. our starting point this morning, developments happening now in cairo. the u.s. embassy there is closed. no one is being allowed in or out as we speak. >> embassy officials say protesters are blocking the entrance and clashes are happening near nearby. reza sayah is nearby for us. what's happening? >> reporter: there is no indication protesters are targeting the u.s. em wibassy b it was closed as a precaution. these are protes
this done before christmas. >> jon: president obama talking stuff and standing his ground as america approaches a fiscal cliff, and the immediate y media in his corn again. >> the new york times gets caught 40 questionable items about the conflicts in the middle east. and a british judge releases his report on the phone hacking scandal in the country and how did the media here react. and jay leno sees the light. >> this is very dangerous for the white house if they should start asking real questions. >> jon: on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor judy miller. syndicated columnist, cal thomas. jim pinkerton, contributor. and kirsten powers. >> jon: i'm jon scott, fox news watch is on right now. ambassador susan rice asked for a face-to-face meeting with some of her most focal critics to make things better. the meeting took place and appears to have made things worse. >> rice herself asked for the meeting, but the effort to smooth things over didn't exactly work. >> for the first time she acknowledged her comments were wrong. >> susan rice has been depi depicted from e
. they want to urge president obama to work with congress on a solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon, the same group of governors will meet with john boehner. california governor jerry brown is not among the group. >>> 7:15. the owner of the drake's bay oyster company is plotting a legal response to the federal decision to shut down his operation. he said he will not give up. the operating permit expired last month at the national seashore. the company was told it will have to leave within 90 days and that area will return to wilderness. >>> oakland's largest pot club gets a key victory in court. a judge ruled that harborside medical center cannot be ejected and they cannot kick them out because it is not breaking state law. now, the landlord will decide again in federal court on december 20th. she wants them out because a federal prosecutor is threatening to seize the property. >>> southern california leaders are demanding that the county be reimbursed for more than $12,000. "the san jose mercury news" show that he used a tax-funded credit card to pay for casino stays, rental car up
americans sent us to do. >> you mentioned the fiscal cliff and i want to ask you about it. president obama even in his p - proposal yesterday had entitlement cuts including to medicare. you have in the past been resistant to cutting entit entitlements. does the result of the election -- i've heard many people on the democratic side say, look, we won. we don't need to make concess n concessions to republicans on entitlements. we can raise the top rates without making these concessions. do you think the president is even in this first proposal giving away too much on the entitlement side? >> i think it's important to note that there's a difference between working to cut medicare and protecting the benefits. and itch said repeatedly that i will not vote to cut the benefits people have earned and depend on because they put those benefits into place, one, this in the middle of a depression, social security, and the other one, medicare, because they were needed. republicans and democrats recognized they needed these programs because people got old and people got sick and they still do. so i wi
, the pr inspect of the tax cliff is already affecting the behavior of some companies and shareholders, including one of president obama's biggest backers, who is cashi [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esurance. their coverage counselor tool helps you choose the right coverage for you at a great price. [ stomach growls ] without feeling queasy. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. >> the president who has covered the backs of businesses. a president who understands what the private sector needs to succeed. a president who takes the long view and makes the tough decisions. and that's why i'm here tonight supporting president obama. >> paul: that was costco co-founder and former ceo at the democratic national convention in september, saying that president obama will be better for business than mitt romney, but jus
respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. >> reporter: so wolf, it's a step forward that they're talking, but in essence, where we stand right now, it's still a stalemate. >> any indication that the vice president, secretary of treasury, others are talking with top people on capitol hill? meeting face to face and going through these items line by line? >> reporter: my understanding is that the white house is not going to start negotiating the details unt
medicarecomplete. martha: taking the fiscal cliff fight on the road now, president obama going to the public with his message today as the clock ticks down on what some lawmakers are calling a potential economic disaster. that is how we start a brand new hour on that sunny thought on a friday morning in "america's newsroom." good to have you here. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. are you doing okay? martha: i'm doing great. bill: second hour here. president obama putting the heat on republicans supporting plan to allow taxes to rise on higher income earners. after days and weeks of meetings with no progress, republicans say he is not meeting them halfway. warning now we're in more danger of that fiscal cliff. melissa: i'm disappointed in where we are and disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. i'm here, seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. melissa: the president has made clear from the start that he understands that he will not get every item in this proposal or in his budget proposal that
a letter urging speaker boehner to take the last hexit before the cliff. neither president obama nor democrats in congress have ever been ambiguous about our proposal to provide economic security for 98% of american families and 97% of small businesses while asking the wealthiest 2% to contribute just a little more to stop this runaway debt. and now that even a dyed in the wool conservative like senator coburn of oklahoma has endorsed the democratic approach, here's what he said, "i know we have to raise revenue. i would rather see the rates go up," he said. he's been heavily involved in everything that's happened in the last several years in washington dealing with debt. when he joins in, that's really significant. it is apparent how this will end. the only question is, when will it end? it's how long will speaker boehner make middle-class families wait for relief and how long will he force the financial markets to wait for u un-- wait for certainty? the longer he delays, the greater i think ris the risk to. so i urge him, don't listen to me, listen to your own caucus. listen to pru
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if we go over the cliff. it's not as if we're talking about a situation in which president obama gets everything he wants. i'm not sure. what we want is the least bad outcome for the u.s. economy. and the u.s. long-term fiscal outlook that we can get. i don't think that balance is what we're seeking. what we're seeking is is let's try not to mess up this situation even more than it already is mess up. >> ifill: do you agree with erskine bowles who told us where we are right now resembles theater? >> i think it's a little bit more than that. i think that there is a much deeper partisan divide. i think erskine bowles, bless his mart heart, still wants to believe we live in the washington of 20 or 30 years ago where reasonable men could ghettoing and make sensible deals. i don't think we're in that washington anymore. i think this is going to be... i don't think there's going to be much of a deal. i think there's going to be a kind of... there will be an outcome which hopefully won't be too bad. but the idea that we're actually going to have a guy shaking his hands and everybody feeling
for everybody. in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody! president obama is meeting with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention. the white house making the case that extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class is directly connected to the health of our businesses. companies need to know consumers will be able to spend and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democrats they're dealing with a split within their own ranks. more conservative republicans don't want part
to your calls about the fiscal cliff and whether -- we told president obama is still the best way to go. remember there's some risk here. the risk is if we do go over the cliff, allow taxes -- that means taxes on every american will go up. every taxpayer will go up first of the year. not just on the top 2%. and somebody's going to get the blame for that. we're counting on the republicans -- americans knowing that republicans are to blame. is that the case? do you agree. 1-866-55-press. is that what the president ought to do. 1-866-55-press. one thing you ought to -- before we get back to your calls urge you to consider, particularly if you are one of those families struggling to make ends meet at the end of every month and who's not, take a look at incomeathome.com. no obligation. just check it out. they're america's leading work from home business and they're offering you an opportunity you can do. in matter your age education or experience, you can literally earn money on your own laptop from your own kitchen ta
, that president obama is playing smart politics on this. he's taking this cliff all the way to the edge, the possibility that he's okay with the country going over it, with the idea that he can fracture republicans on the tax issue. remember, republicans have been ability lowering taxes ever since h.w. bush said the read my lips pledge. what they've run on. if he can fracture them and hurt them politically going into 2014 they believe that's what he's doing and why he's trying to draw this out. it's an interesting element besides all we talked about in terms of the monetary values here, the politics of it, absolutely fascinating. >> luke russert, thank you, kelly and chris. joining me is north dakota senator kent conrad chairman of the senate budget committee, someone who has been here, done that, how many years have you gone through these negotiations? >> 26. >> talk about where we stand right now. because the senate -- the house republicans, the speaker, did put out their proposal last night and talking again about not raising rates, but handling the revenue side with deductions. here
from that so-called fiscal cliff. there appears to be very little movement toward any kind of deal. president obama is using the bully-pulpit to appeal to the american people to push for immediate action to push the tax cuts for everybody except for those earning more than $250,000 a year. in his saturday address, he stressed the urgency of the situation. >> if congress does nothing, every family will see their income taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle-class family of four will see income taxes rise by $2200. we can't let that happen. a families can't afford it and neither can our economy. >> reporter: republicans led by house speaker john boehner says he should quit campaigning and take care of the business at hand. republicans say they are willing to consider raising more revenue but they want to see spending cuts to go along with it. >> we need to hear they are willing to make spending cuts now, not promises of spending cuts sometime if the future. to me the tidal waves that are coming at us is social security and medicare and the new healt
and congress and how they are addressing the fiscal cliff. first president obama speaks in pennsylvania followed by house speaker john banner responding from capitol hill. then eric cantor response to the white house deficit reduction package. later, nancy pelosi addresses the fiscal cliff and middle- class tax cuts. tomorrow on ", washington "" robert -- "washington journal," robert van order on the mortgage loan forgiveness. adult'eman on being an with autism. plus, your emails, phone calls, and tweets. >> c-span, created by cable companies and venture 1979, brought to you as a public service by >> president obama talked about the so-called fiscal cliff and his proposal to end the bush era tax cuts. he spoke at a manufacturing facility in hatfield, pennsylvania, for about 25 minutes. >> thank you! [cheers and applause] >> well, good morning, everybody. everybody, please have a seat, have a seat. relax for a second. it is good to see all of you. hello, hatfield! it is good to be back in pennsylvania and it is good to be right here at connects. i want to thank michael airington and the
to the edge of the fiscal cliff. and house republicans had harsh words for president obama after he released a budget proposal suggesting more taxes, more spending. >> he wants the power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval and they cannot issue an edict like a monarchy, congress, congress, congress is in charge of the purse. the government has gone wild. >> dave: in that congressman's words has they become a monarchy, explaining from texas, congressman poe. >> good morning, dave. >> dave: how has this administration become like a monarchy? >> well, the president in his proposal basically said, turn everything over to me, give me the power or let me take the power to raise the debt ceiling, that seems to be quite arrogant on his part and if he's serious about it, they be what he's really saying is, i want to spend more money. that's how i want to solve the fiscal cliff problem, is spending more taxpayer money. so, the president doesn't have the authority to raise the debt ceiling, he shouldn't have the authority. congress, as you all mentioned earlier is in charge of the
to speed this morning. president obama rejecting a fiscal cliff counter offer from republicans. the gop proposal calls for $2.2 trillion in deficit savings over the next decade, including 800 billion from tax reform. 600 billion from medicare reform, 600 billion in spending cuts. the white house is refusing to consider it because it doesn't include tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >>> and britain is rife with speculation this morning, is kate having a boy, or a girl? is she having twins? triplets? what about a name? britain is buzzing with news that prince william's wife, katherine, is pregnant. she is in a london hospital being treated for severe morning sickness. >>> students at one elementary school in atlanta will attend class in a different building this morning. dozens were sickened yesterday at their regular school by carbon monoxide poisoning. at least 49 were sent to the hospital. fire officials believe the heating system failed. later this morning we will talk to a student, a parent and a school official. >>> the judge overseeing the court marshall of nadal hassan has b
the fiscal cliff. washington journal is live starting at 7:00 eastern on c-span. >> president obama travels to pennsylvania friday to talk about his plan to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. we'll be live from the manufacturing company at noon eastern an c-span2 3. >> worked his way up, went to harvard law school and then immigrated out west to illinois where the lead mine industry was in its hey day. he arrived after about a month's journey by shi ship, by stagecoach, by train and arrived on this steam boat in this muddy mining town boarded himself in a log cabin, established a law practice in a log cabin and worked his way up and became a successful lawyer. and got involved politically and ran for congress eight terms. and then befriended abraham lincoln from illinois. and then grant. and as they were on the rice, wash burn stayed with them as a close colleague during the civil war. and after grant was elected president he initially appointed him secretary of state. and at that time he became very ill. so after about ten days, he submitted his resignation to president grant and so he acce
discuss a little -- the latest with the fiscal cliff negotiations. republicans and joined obama to extend the bush era tax rates. first time university law professor looked at the history of the alternative minimum task -- tax. cluster e-mails, phone calls and tweets. tuesday at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. more about the tax loopholes and deductions that could be involved in negotiations over the fiscal cliff. from our special washington journal series, this is 50 mins. >> we turn our attention today to deductions and tax -- tax loopholes. joining us to talk about this is john mckennan, thank you for being here. what are loopholes and deductions? we hear those words a lot. guest: loopholes or tax breaks of all different sorts. whether you like a particular loophole or not depends on where you sit. there are lots of loopholes that are deductions. deductions are the ones most people are familiar with. the big itemize deductions are things like a home mortgage interest deduction. there is one for state and local taxes that is very important. the deduction for charitable contributions. then
evening. i'm tom hudson. the nation's governors met with president obama today about what they need to see in a fiscal cliff deal. we talk with delaware governor jack markell. >> susie: i'm susie gharib. a coalition of the nation's top c.e.o.s is feeling pessimistic about getting a fiscal cliff deal.
-door briefing earlier today to outline the proposal of president obama for the so- called fiscal cliff. what is the proposal? >> the top line #would be about $2.20 trillion in the budget control act. and they say compared to what the white house put out, the white house says it offers $4 trillion when using the same accounting as the white house, it would be about $4.60 trillion over 10 years. republicans say it would come from tax reform, but not to increasing tax rates. that has been a sticking point thus far in negotiations. >> you are talking about the bush tax rates? >> all of the bush era tax rates would be extended into next year and that would start the process for tax reform. it would be in the tax reform process that there would generate -- and they would generate $800 million -- $800 billion in revenue. and they say the $800 billion could be raised without raising tax rates, and this is something that is in dispute with the white house. the white house said there would be no deal unless republicans agreed to increase tax rates on the wall the next year. >> what do the republicans
counterproposal for heading off the fiscal cliff was a nonstarter. president obama made clear today that it will not be possible to get a deal to avert the fiscal cliff without raising taxes on the wealthy. the gop's plan did promise $2.2 trillion in deficit savings over the next decade. that's about half of what the president promises in his plan. but the gop plan does it without any tax hikes on the rich. and that is not going to fly with democrats. republicans for their part are unhappy that the president's proposal calls for $200 billion more in stimulus spending over the next year. here is how that breaks down. $95 billion to extend the payroll tax cut for one year, $30 billion to extend jobless benefit for one year, $50 billion to spend on roads and bridges and another $25 billion on short-term stuff like a temporary tax deduction for small businesses. the argument in favor of the president's plan is this could help people still hurting from years of economic trouble, but you know as well as i do, stimulus is almost as bad a word to republicans as tax hike. those are two words
. >>> president obama made the fess cal cliff case to business leaders today. dan lothian is at the white house. dan, he is meeting with business leaders, but there is no phone conversation that is taking place, no conversations at all taking place with boehner now. what position is the white house in? how does the president feel this is going? >> you're right about that. the white house continues to insist conversations are ongoing, but i'm hearing from gop aides that, in fact, what we're seeing in the public is exactly what's happening in the private, and that is that it's essentially a standoff. there are no phone conversations, no e-mails, no texting going back and forth, and identify been talking about this. it's very difficult to see how this process moves fashd if -- we see them bringing in business leaders to the white house, ceos, middle class americans, and they're reaching tout these ceos of the business roundtable saying his policies will help businesses. his policies will make it easier to create jobs and that he is rooting for them. at the time he is trying to get behind his posit
're in the exit polls. to only 27% would blame obama if the country goes over the cliff. blah blah, blah. to that 64%ers who didn't believe it would have a major effect on the u.s. economy and 60% think that will be negative. who are republicans fighting for? not for a majority of americans. he's fighting for the top 2% who he says are actually small business owners. >> mmm no. >> stephanie: talk points are getting moldy. a $600 million a year hedge fund would qualify as a small business by paul ryan's misleading definition. regardless of the small business description, that still puts them in the 1% which is less than the majority of americans are compressed by the jobs. >> small compared to the planet jupiter. >> stephanie: right. all relative. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: i don't know what this means. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] i don't know what this means chris. two fiscal conservatives booted from the panel. boehner is getting ready to -- be reasonable? >> no. it means there's disarray in the republican part
. well, 28 days to go until tax cuts expire for most americans if president obama and congress can't cut a deal to keep us from going off the fiscal cliff. the president says the latest republic offer is out of balance because it extends tax cuts on income of above $250,000. g.o.p. leaders claim they can raise revenue without raising rates by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. but the white house says it's about the rates. ed henry is at the white house tonight. the president claims the republic math does not add up. >> that's right, shep. he met with the nation's governors today. he said behind closed doors that there is a lot at stake not just for the national economy but state by state. some of their budgets could take a major hit if, in fact, the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. his spokesman jay carney was even tougher in going after speaker john boehner's latest proposal in saying it simply doesn't add up. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> the
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